32 of 46(70%)customers would recommend this product to a friend.
Customer Reviews for ThinkPad T430s
Review 1 for ThinkPad T430s
Owned Product:Less than a month
Operating System:Windows 7 Professional
Processor:Intel Core i5
Memory:4 GB or more
Updated Review of the T430s
Date:August 16, 2012
"I wrote a review before when trying to use the mSATA/HD combo and was a little disappointed with the recovery media and felt like I had the same performance as my e420s but with a better screen and backlit keyboard. After talking with a tech that was pretty helpful I discovered their were better ways to configure the T430s. I got rid of the mSATA and bought a Samsung 512gb SATA III SSD at a reasonable price for the main hard drive area. I also found out after the review that he mSATA port is only SATA II and the main hard drive port is SATA III. My new set up with the T430s is the i5 with nvidia graphics card, 1600 x 900 matte screen, 16gb (bought separately) of memory, BT, backlit keyboard and a 2nd battery for the ultra bay. With the Samsung SSD the total price was about $2,200 after tax and shipping.
There is enough space on the HD now but if I start to fill up I can replace the DVD drive with another HD up to 1tb in size. This is much better than the mSATA/HD set up before and I'm pretty stoked.
Performance- in the last review I dyslexically wrote a pcmark 7 score 3,965 instead of 3,695. The New score using the SATA III drive is up from 3,695 to 3961. The Old Windows 7 Scores with the mSATA using the SATA II port are 6.3 for gaming and graphics, 7.2 on calculations per second, 7.5 with memory and 7.3 on disk data transfer rate. With the new SSD the disc data transfer rate went up from 7.3 to 7.9. You can see a difference when opening up files, programs and such. It's really fast.
The versatility of the ultra bay is genius. I Love that you can put in a hard drive, dvd drive and a battery in the same bay with very little effort and on the fly. Now if only Lenovo had a Blu-Ray option for that ultra bay and it would be perfect. The PC now starts in about 22 seconds but it's loaded with many many programs. Before I started loading all the programs the start up was around 16 seconds which is great for a laptop with mid range processing power.
Battery life is pretty good but I haven't extensively tested it. I think with what I have used with the battery so far a conservative estimate would be about 5 hours with moderate use and probably 8-9hrs with the ultra bay battery in. With tweaking the settings it seems possible I could do better. This will travel very well!
I have friends who have macs with ssd drives that have better bench mark scores and a ton of people say the graphics and processing power of their macs are faster than this but I paid about 1/3 to 1/2 the price. If I bought a new mac with similar hard drive space I'd be out about $3100 shipped so I think it's worth it. I can also upgrade my T430s where you cant with the Mac.
I now have a great laptop for working at home and travel. I'm usually home all summer and gone all winter so this is the perfect compromise. The only thing I wish I had was a little better graphics performance to catch up to what the macs are doing but I'm ok with paying $900 less."
Cons: laptop was badly put together, had to send it back
"I've had all sorts of problems with Lenovo.
I'm not a very picky buyer, and I usually don't spend time writing reviews (almost never). But I waited weeks to get this T430s and when I got it, so many things were wrong with it. They had the wrong video driver, the Windows OS had to be re-imaged. After doing lots of reading, I saw that a lot of people send their laptops back to Lenovo because of related issues. I think their process is very fragmented, so there's no good quality assurance.
I've purchased cheaper laptops for friends and family, and all their laptops from different companies (even Dell!) never gave issues where I had to ship it back. And even though this is the most expensive laptop I've purchased for myself, it's been the most unreliable.
If you decide to buy this product, write here what was your first major issue, and you'll be surprised how often this shows up."
"I was excited to order the 430s, but then it took over a month to get here with constantly moving delivery dates. I finally got a few poorly written email messages telling me the graphics card was making the system late. If there was a star rating for their order process and delivery time, I would give them 0 stars. But, it arrived, and it's a good machine. I was deciding between the new X1 Carbon and the 430s. I wanted light weight and powerful. I realized since I own an iPad, I didn't need to spend the extra money dropping the weight from 4 lbs to 3 lbs, so I chose the 430s. It's still really light weight and easy to carry around so I think it's a good value. The truth is I don't carry this laptop around with me as much anymore. I had a T500 before and the 430s feels incredibly lighter weight. It boots up in about 1 minute, which is awesome. Awake from sleep is even faster. the keyboard is great, although I need to get used to the new arrangement of the Insert and Delete keys. I upgraded to a 500 GB hard drive so that after all the bloatware, I would still have capacity. The only bad thing I have noticed so far is that the screen doesn't seem as vivid as my previous T500. I had them side by side as I was transferring data over, and I could tell the difference. The controls for adjusting the contrast on the 430s are not obvious and adjusting the contrast helped some. It's not the brightness setting. It's like the colors are just more washed out. So far, so good. It's working as expected."
"This is my 4th Thinkpad, which includes the R40, T60P, and now, the T430s (I can't remember the first one). I love the THINKPAD model - it is so reliable and has always worked fine for me. I look forward to experiencing all the functionality of my new T430s. I really like the built-in camera and microphone, which allow me to use my social networking applications on my Thinkpad. I also like the fingerprint reader log on, so that I don't have to have yet another password to remember. All-in-all, it has everything I need bundled into a nice-sized package. Oh, yes - it's lightweight, too. Nice job, Lenovo!"
"I have been using the T430s for over a month now (3gen core i5). I knew I would want to upgrade out of the box, so I bought a base model, then doubled the RAM to 8GB and put in a Crucial SSD as well. So glad I did. Programs open quickly with virtually no hang-up time. It starts-up in around 25 seconds with standard programs installed.
If you decide to upgrade to SSD, make sure you get 7mm drive and use Lenovo's restore disks to reload the OS onto new drive (not a direct link cable). Upgrade was incredibly simple, with one screw access each for HD bay and RAM, and both working immediately upon plugin.
I have had 0 problems, except for a single pixel that is out on the screen, but with the HD size, it is barely noticeable. No freezes or errors so far either. Video is surprisingly good, for non-discrete graphics.
I purchased a bay battery for the ultrabay, and it has extended my battery life to approximately 11 hours when surfing and taking notes in class on a level 4 brightness.
It feels slim and light, which I feel more than makes up for the price difference from the T430.
With this T430s configuration, I feel like I'm getting the same performance as Apple for half the price. This is my first Lenovo product, and I will definitely be coming back for more."
Good laptop but mSATA config is different than 420
Date:August 10, 2012
Pros: Weight, Video card, Battery, Processor, Memory, Keyboard/peripherals
Cons: Support, Software compatibility
"So I bought this after having a good time this last year on the Lenovo thinkpad e420s but wanted a backlit keyboard, graphics card and better screen resolution. I also was keen on bettery battery life. The T430s had all of that and I'm pretty impressed with it so far.
There is one big issue I had with the T430s that could either be a big issue for some or a non issues for others. With the e420s I had an 80gb intel mSATA for the os and programs as well as a 500gb hard drive for files. I tried to do the same with the T430's. After a week of working with Lenovo I finally discovered from a tech that the recovery discs won't work if you want to load it to an mSATA like my 120gb i bought for this. Support isn't very helpful either with this out of the box issue. I had to buy a new copy of windows 7 pro for $299 and load every driver myself for it to work. It took a tremendous amount of the joy away from the purchase and installation which is usually an easy thing. At least I have no bloat ware and it works perfect now but what a waste of the week.
Another smaller issue is the T430s only takes 7mm Hard Drives so right now the best you can do is 500gb. Still I'd rather have the 7mm drive and the small size over a standard 9.5mm drive.
Ok so now to the way it works now and the rest of it. One thing I can say is the look of the T430s is a lot different in person than with the videos. It looks more sleek and slim. There is more of a new school look than what you see on the videos and pics. It also feels light and sturdy. The area where you rest your palms to type isn't much of a smudge magnet so that is good as well.
This is my 4th Lenovo and 3rd thinkpad so I'm pretty new to the whole keyboard world. My wife has a t520 so I got to play around with the old school keyboard and actually prefer the new keyboard set up. I can see how the old schoolers would get annoyed with the new one though. Still out of all the keyboards I tried in many stores this is hands down the best. It would of been nice though if the click pad was a little wider. I still like the left and right clicks separate from the pad instead of the unified pad. The back lit keyboard is great and should of been done a long time ago. The keyboard is also much better in terms of feel than the e420s.
It would be nice to have one more usb on the sides instead of everything in the back. This might just be me but I'd prefer an hdmi port instead of a mini display but I'm probably in the minority. Speaking of display I have heard complaints but coming from the washed out lower def screen on the e420s I'm pretty happy.
The pcmark 7 score is 3965 which I think is pretty good for a thin and light laptop like this. The windows experience is 6.3 for gaming and graphics. It's 7.2 on calculations per second, 7.5 with memory (have 16gb in) and 7.3 on disk data transfer rate. I haven't given it a full battery test but with the bay battery in it looks like it will be about 7-8hours at the maximum battery life setting which is about what I expected based on my computers specs. I bet it would be longer without a graphics card, 2 drives and an i5 processor.
If it wasn't for the mSATA recovery media issue and the cold un-helpful tech I would of gave this 5 stars across the board but all in all this is a pretty good laptop and should be good for my travels for at least a year or 2. I really wish the techs would be a little more helpful with people who want to utilize the laptops full potential. I don't think I could recommend this laptop to someone else if they wanted to use the unique mSATA feature. I would only recommend it to someone who wants to use it with a 2.5 in HD."
"I have had this laptop since August. The fingerprint scanner died. The speakers are not great. The computer has already had a virus and I have never had a virus on any of my other computers before. The hard drive is already filled there is not enough memory on it. Overall really disappointed in this computer for the price."
"The wifi was shot after one day of use. I was expecting much more out of such a highly recommended brand. A constantly freezing computer in addition to the wifi connection problems are beginning to make me think that keeping my previous business computer would have been much less of a hassle."
Cons: Battery, Keyboard/peripherals, Included Software, Build Quality, Durability
"I bought a T430s in Dec 2012. Right out of the box, the laptop had following issues: 1. Bad CAPS lock key. 2. Wobbly screen: wobble of around 0.5 inc at the top of the screen 3. Warping and flexing at the bottom edge of the screen. 4. unreliable wifi connection.
Within one week the Lenovo lettering on the top of the laptop started coming apart, one actually nicked my finger!
The laptop cooling fan runs continiuosly, even if I am just web browsing and the CPU utilization is <5-7%!!
Now to get to the the mSSD does not seem to help. The windows experience score is 5.9
The battery lasts for around 2.5 hours on 50% screen brightness while browsing. Playing a video cuts it down to around 1hour 15 minutes."
"Originally ordered a Dell, but it had extremely poor battery life and would often overheat. I sent it back and found a refurbished T430s on the Lenovo outlet site. I run Ubuntu as my primary OS, but have it dual-booting with Windows 7. Great battery life ~5-6 hours if just surfing and/or word processing, ~3-4 hours if streaming a lot of music and/or video. Runs Ubuntu like a dream. Backlit keyboard is great. I don't use the trackpoint, but it doesn't get in the way at all. I actually have Ubuntu installed on the 16gb mSata SSD, but the home folder is on the regular hdd with Windows 7. As a result, bootup time in Ubuntu is ridiculously fast. Overall, the build quality is lives up to the Thinkpad T-series reputation, but as the "s" indicates, it's not as big and bulky as the regular T430."
I've upgraded all features of the computer + 160GB SSD, and 16GB RAM - both a must.
Pros: Never crashes. Super fast with upgrades. Lightweight. Versatile (graphics, gaming, processing).
Example: Handles 40+ FF Tabs, Skype, 5+ Word Tabs, PS5, Ill5, Drmw5, Downolads, Music Streaming - all without a single hick-up in performance. Extremely fast with the upgrades.
Cons: Batter issue when first bought (corrected by Lenovo pretty quickly). Trackpad wearing down after 6-months - doesn't work for 2-4seconds at a time. Screen colors not so sharp. Keyboard not good, battery not great. Need upgrades to experience the performance."
Cons: Video card, Battery, Weight, Display performance
"I purchased this T430S on last Christmas. It is very good 14" thin laptop. I have had my 15" T61 for many years and love it.
But, I did not keep this T430S because of its quality of sound and display. The sound is not easy on the ear compared with T61 that I have. Another is the color of display. I am happy with anti-glare screen with high resolution. But, the color on the screen looks pale.
Though T Series is for business design, not for entertainment use, as T series is so famous for its reputation as ThinkPad. I wish Lenovo can offer more flexible on Display when customers do "customize" online.
I am waiting for coming T440/T440S/T540S to any different.
Overall, ThinkPad T series is still the best laptop if you compare with other brand."
Cons: Support, Included Software, full documentation of all features
"Since my first computer in 1988 I always built and maintained my own desktop computers feeling that this was the best way to spend my money. Recently I decided that laptops now fulfill the roll of most desktops and with peripheral devices, can exceed most for the average advanced user.
Now when I travel I can take the same device with me. When I was made the decision on what laptop to purchase that was easy to travel and yet had the technology to operate as a full desktop while at my desk, the T430 model was the best designed laptop and was backed by serious programs and options giving it everything I need."
"perfect laptop, except this terrible layout for keyboard buttons. i'm not sure what is the purpose of changing the buttons layout. old layout was a replica of a normal keyboard. new one have all major "sensitive" buttons (like the insert button) side by side, so very often you would find yourself clicking the wrong button..
lenovo should offer the 2 layouts, the old thinkpad and this new one, and let people choose.. if it was my call i would fire the engineers who dumped the old keyboard for this one"
"problems with the Laptop, keyboard is worst one i saw up to now, and battery life.
the response of the keys are too bad, And arrangement of keys are also very bad. few keys are arranged up and down. what the quality testing process they follow before handover the product to customer we don't know Before that I used DELL latitude, it is too rough and tough, I am feeling very bad for my decision.
second thing battery, wow it is another super problem, they announced 7hrs but even 2hrs is not working.
the guys who want to just see the slim Laptop go with the T430s other wise go with other one.
What we will do even my system is full powerful, solid and etc.... without KEYBOARD for Laptop. worst keyboard.